With the 2013 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony now running on HBO, there's definitely a marked difference between the haves and have-nots. Although Rush fans played a tremendous part in finally getting the band inducted into the Hall after being passed by every year since first becoming eligible in 1999 -- Kiss, who also first became eligible that year, are no closer to induction than they were then.
Kiss frontman Paul Stanley took time to salute the band's fans while taking a swipe at Rock Hall co-founderJann Wenner when asked if he ever sees a day when Kiss will be inducted, telling The Huffington Post, "Well, it depends on who lives longer, us or Jann Wenner. Look, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is marketing. You've got a bunch of faceless people in a back room who trademark a name that sounds very official. Well, if you had thought of it first, you would have been the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am one of the biggest Laura Nyro fans. I still listen to that stuff incessantly. Laura Nyro does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Songwriter Hall of Fame? Absolutely."
He went on to plead his case, saying, "It's absurd for anybody to look around and hear the acts and artists who cite us as an inspiration, and then tell me that we're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I would certainly accept on their (the fans) behalf because it seems to be a major sore spot for them, but I don't need the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
INTERNET COMMENTS at Ultimate Classic Rock -- agree or not?
Kiko Jones wrote: "'Look, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is marketing...' Hey, the guy whose band logo sells everything from funeral caskets to toilet paper would know, right?"
Steve Komito wrote: "The difference between Paul & the HOF on that issue is that Paul has never denied the marketing aspect and the HOF thinks of itself larger and more important than what it really is. Point to Stanley."
Brian Klonowski wrote "Randy Newman is in, and Kiss isn't. That's all that needs to be said. Jan Wenner is a putz."
Jeff Foster wrote: "The HOF is a joke, but Kiss doesn't belong there or anywhere with accomplished, talented musicians. They're a joke band and they always have been. If there's a business HOF, then maybe there. But definitely not anywhere with REAL musicians..."
Martin Winchester wrote: "Tell me why LL Cool J and Madonna are in there and not KISS"
Eric Turnbow wrote: "It is a sad comment for sure when The Beasty Boys, Public Enemy, Donna Summer and Madonna are in ROCK hall of fame and Kiss is not? WHAT? They like so overdue! They are the definition of Rock. Not disco or pop or rap."
Ian Norburg wrote: "I'm really torn on whether KISS should get in... On the one hand they have survived 40 years and that has to count for something, but on the other they're initial fame came from wearing the greasepaint and having the most energetic and wild stage show in the '70s. The music itself, pretty much, took a back seat. I know that when I first discovered KISS it was in an old Circus magazine (remember them?). I was entranced by these guys in makeup and their show just looked like nothing I'd ever seen before. When I finally heard them I was thinking more about what their stage show was like. Even when I finally saw a concert that was on HBO (I think it was from the "Destroyer" tour) I was too enthralled watching them than to pay attention to what was being played. To this day I feel they had one of the best stage shows in rock history. Once I got to the point where I could separate the music from the image and presentation I realized that musically they were kinda mediocre to good (though I still think "Parasite" is kick a$$). I pretty much came to the conclusion that if it wasn't for all the makeup, theatrics and explosions to back them up that 95 percent of the music that KISS was making, at that time (I'm not counting their post makeup '80s crap... In fact I don't think they even play any of that now), wouldn't stand up. Let's face it. How many of you that became KISS fans in the '70s heard the music before you even had any idea of the makeup and stage show? Would you have noticed if they didn't have all of that to back them up? If they ever get in it will be because of their image and presentation, not because of the music."